Welcome Jeremy and Cook,
Glad you both are here and are thinkers.
I'm a recently faded elder as well, but I am not from the UK. There are no doubt hundreds of former elders from the UK who frequent this forum
peace to you
The Oracle
i'm mostly here to meet new like minded friends.
growing up in the religion has jaded my perspective.
most of my believes the wts is bs, but there is that part in the back of my mind that fears they have the truth.
Welcome Jeremy and Cook,
Glad you both are here and are thinkers.
I'm a recently faded elder as well, but I am not from the UK. There are no doubt hundreds of former elders from the UK who frequent this forum
peace to you
The Oracle
with the accident at the kh build in victoria i thought of the insurance they had.
i'm guessing it was wts insurance - kingdom hall fund possibly.
either way, since they do have this insurance division, i was just wondering if it is in name only and run through wts bethal offices or is it a seperate branch and completely seperate corporation.
what happened in Victoria?
The Oracle
working in a bookstore i notice the thousands and thousands of books "explaining" what the bible really "means.".
those are what people read.. when people say they read the bible they are really saying they "try".
but, it is like reading chinese.. so, what they end up doing is reading opinions.. opinions, conjectures, hypothesis, fantasy, imaginative ruminations, fanciful concoctions......other people's ideas presented as documentary fact.. .
Hey startingover,
Glad you relate. It's pretty interesting how clear everything becomes when you decide to be completly honest and shed all your preconceived notions.
It's interesting you say that about not re-reading books - even C of C. I had only read snippets and excerpts for a few years before I actually ended up getting it and reading it cover to cover, but that was long after I knew the JW teachings were pretty much crazy so it wasn't really an eye-opener at that point. At any rate, I never felt the need to read it over and over again even though it was one of the best books I ever read too!
The Oracle
welcome aboard seenitall!
it's tough to stay in when you know its a farce. I had to do it for quite a while myself. Hopefully it won't last forever and you can break out with your family and some friends eventually.
Cheers,
The Oracle
omg i just heard this morning that they have a table set up at the local walmart, so i had to drive by.
it is huge with two huge signs one spanish and one english of blown up pictures of some of the book covers like you can live forever and young people ask, etc with a card table in the middle and two very boarded looking people just sitting there.
this morning was the spanish congo's turn but the walmart is in my halls territory so the english speaking ones from my hall will man it on the english speaking times i guess.
Lifeistooshort,
Hey can you send me a PM with that local Walmart's address.
I'd like to write a letter or two.
I can assure you they won't be set up at that Walmart much longer.
The Oracle
was there an official or unofficial reason that anyone knows of?.
it seems to me that pretty much every publication was studied at the book study, but we never did that one..
LMAO! I'm with 5thGeneration on this one.
The Oracle
do you hate them?
do you feel bad for them?
do you not give a crap about them anymore??
those faces tell an interesting tale....
just finished the chapter in ray's " christian freedom " book on " misuse of disfellowshipping .
i highly recommend anyone reading it as it has numerous experiences of individuals who were mistreated so unjustly by the wt society's rigid rules - many in spite of 40, 50, or 60 yrs.
of faithful alleigance to the wt society's rules.
glad you bumped it Flipper!
Good reminders, indeed.
Hope all is well with you, friend!
I haven't been frequenting the site regularly over the last year, but do check in once in a while.
The Oracle
is it a bad idea for me to invite a lady that i just met at wal mart to my home?
i have never have invited ladies that fast especially from the store to my home, but i wonder if i should have invited her right away???
i was waiting at the line and there was a gorgeous lady, she said hi first to me.
I would definitely say, keep her out of your home until you get to know her in public.
As transhuman intimated, it really would suck if she turned out to be some axe weilding wacko.
do you hate them?
do you feel bad for them?
do you not give a crap about them anymore??
organization = bad
people in it = fall in to one of three categories
1) most are victims,
2) some are a-holes,
3) some are just plain stupid
The Oracle